It’s the driver move nobody saw coming, as David Malukas joins The Race IndyCar Podcast to discuss his blockbuster decision to switch to the AJ Foyt team for 2025.

Malukas has his third team in a year - after being dropped by McLaren after his wrist injury and returning to action with Meyer Shank - and he outlines the reasons for his decision to switch.

He also addressed rumours about this being a ploy to get to Team Penske - linked to Foyt - in the future and answers those who think this is a backwards or sideways move, as well as discussing his strong form on his return.

Kyle Kirkwood - and Malukas - preview this weekend’s race at Gateway, too.

Andretti Global's Kirkwood has been incredibly consistent this year - something he’s been criticised for a lack of in the past - and talks about the adaptation to IndyCar from a successful junior career.

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